Shaykh Jamal Ud-deen Hysaw describes his childhood as nomadic. He moved across the United States, living in suburban communities where he often felt the effects of racism and isolation, and found it difficult fitting in with both his Black and white classmates. His journey to Islam began in college as he started exploring Black history and reading The Autobiography of Malcolm X. A few years after he converted, he was introduced to then translator Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller who was visiting Atlanta at the time. He got his phone number and after months of almost daily phone calls, Shaykh Nuh and his wife Shaykha Umm Sahl suggested that he come to Damascus and study Islamic sciences full-time. He was in Syria for three years before becoming one of the first foreigners to be invited to Tarim by Habib Omar. He eventually settled there for five years to finish his studies. Shaykh Jamal is a natural storyteller. This is a four hour interview, but he keeps the listener engaged from beginning to end with stories from his life and beautiful descriptions of his time in Hadhramaut. He talks about what it was like seeking knowledge in the '90s with scholars like Habib Omar and Shaykh Nuh. There's also great advice here about the importance of humility throughout one's spiritual journey. While Shaykh Jamal may not be a household name, he was instrumental in guiding many on their path to knowledge. Shaykh Jamal Ud-Deen Hysaw describes his childhood as nomadic. He moved across the United States, living in suburban communities where he often felt the effects of racism and isolation, and found it difficult fitting in with both his Black and white classmates. His journey to Islam began in college when he started exploring Black history and read The Autobiography of Malcolm X. A few years after he converted, he was introduced to then translator Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller who was visiting Atlanta at the time. He got his phone number and after months of almost daily phone calls, Shaykh Nuh and his wife Shaykha Umm Sahl suggested that he come to Damascus to study the Islamic sciences full-time. He lived in Syria for three years before becoming one of the first foreigners to be invited to Tarim by Habib Omar. He would stay there for five years while he completed his studies. Shaykh Jamal is a natural storyteller. This is a four hour interview, but he keeps the listener engaged from beginning to end with stories from his life and beautiful descriptions of his time in Hadramawt. He talks about what it was like seeking knowledge in the '90s with scholars like Habib Omar and Shaykh Nuh. There's great advice here about the importance of humility throughout one's spiritual journey. While Shaykh Jamal may not be a household name, he was instrumental in guiding many on their path to knowledge. His story intersects with many familiar names: الحبيب عمر بن حفيظ - Habib Omar,Habib Ali Al-Mashhur and his son Habib Abdur Rahman bin Hafid, Habib Kadhim al-Saqqaf English, Habib Ali al-Jifri English, Shaykh Abdul Rahman Shaghouri, Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller, Shaykha Umm Sahl, Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi الشيخ محمد اليعقوبي, Habib Ali Abu Bakr bin Shaikh, Habib Salim Al-Shatiri, Habib Hashim bin Aqil, Habib Shahabideen, Habib Tahir Al Attas, Shaykh Dr. Muhammad bin Yahya al-Husayni al-Ninowy الشيخ د. محمد النينوي, Shaykh Umar Hussein Al-Khatib, Musa Furber, Shaykh Jihad Hashim Brown, Imam Zaid Shakir, Abu Munir, Ali Keeler, Shaykh Faraz Rabbani, Shaykh Ibrahim Osi Effa, Shaykh Yahya Rhodus, Shaykh AbdulKarim Yahya, Ustadh Tariq Ameer, Imam Abdul Huqq, Dr. Amin Best, Mustafa Davis, Omar Daytona, Usama Canon